Glutathione: What is it and why should we care?
There has been a lot of talk about the significance of glutathione in autism and how it might be depleted by mercury exposure. I thought I would attempt to review what we do and do not know about glutathione and autism and how it may relate to mercury toxicity.
Let's start with "What is it?"
Glutathione is defined as: a tripeptide consisting of residues of glutamic acid, cysteine, and glycine, is known to act as a coenzyme in a few enzymatic reactions, but its importance may lie in its role as a nonspecific reducing agent within the cell.
and, Glutathione is the most abundant non-protein thiol compound present in living organisms. Glutathione has many functions beyond removal of toxic metals like mercury. It is essential for maintaining cellular redox state, which every human metabolic process depends upon, in every living cell in our bodies.
So Why should we care?
Many of the mercury hypothesis supporters believe glutathione deficiency makes children more susceptible to thimerosal exposure:
http://www.ewg.org/reports/autism/execsumm.php
Newly published research and follow-up testing by former FDA senior research scientist Dr. Jill James, now of the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, has uncovered a unique and consistent metabolic imbalance in autistic children when compared to normal healthy children (James 2004a, 2004b). This impairment manifests as a severe deficit in the body's most important antioxidant and metals detoxifier, glutathione. When compared to normal health children, autistic children showed a significant impairment in every one of five measurements of the body's ability to maintain a healthy glutathione defense. These findings are strong evidence that if these children were exposed to a potentially toxic dose of mercury or other compound they would be much less able to mount an effective defense.
That might lead us to believe that the autistic children in the study had very low levels of glutathione and that they have some sort of genetic or metabolic defect made them unable to produce sufficient quantities of glutathione. So did James et al really find very low gluathione or an impairment in gluathione synthesis?
Here's a diagram from the same page:
The table shows two types of glutathione, active and inactive. It would probably be more accurate if the two types were described as reduced and oxidized but it can get confusing to discuss reduced glutathione which is not the same as decreased glutathione.
According to the table, the autistic subjects had 31% less of the reduced form (GSH) and 33% more of the oxidized form (GSSG) as compared to the non-autistic subjects in the study. Technically these aren't two distinct forms but rather two oxidation states of the same molecule with a clear inverse relationship. When levels of one drop and the other increases. Not what we would want to call a "severe deficit" but possibly suggestive of a pro-oxidative environment.
Decreased synthetic capability is one possible explanation but this would probably result in a significant deficit of total glutathione not an imbalance between the two oxidation states. If James found any evidence of impaired glutathione synthesis in this small group of children it wasn't included in any of her published work. It doesn't sound like the children were suffering from a glutathione deficiency as much as an increased oxidative burden greater than the capacity to recycle and glutathione and maintain full oxidative defense capacity.
James et al also reported an improvement in GSH:GSSG ratio following the administration of certain methyl donor supplements, chiefly methyl-B12 injections. Me-B12 is a wonderful methylator but there are two other ways it might temporarily offset oxidative stressors when injected directly into the bloodstream.
1) Methyl-B12 is an effective anti-oxidant and a nitric oxide scavenger. Nitric oxide may be elevated in some children with autism and reactive nitrogen compounds can contribute to oxidative stress and alterations in reduced glutathione levels.
2) Methyl-B12 can suppress activity of certain types of immune cells which are thought to be a major source of reactive oxygen species during periods of increased immune activation.
The investigators didn't report improvements in autistic behaviors, only changes in markers of oxidative defense systems.
So what about the mercury? Isn't glutathione necessary for the excretion of heavy metals?
One of the many functions of glutathione is conjugation and detoxification of metals and other toxins. It is speculated that children with autism are unable to excrete metals because of a glutathione deficiency. There doesn't seem to be a deficiency, as discussed above, but let's suppose children with autism had significantly lower levels of glutathione. Would it render them unable to detoxify thimerosal from vaccines? Probably not.
If the average human carries around approximately 6 milligrams of mercury how much glutathione should we require to deal with environmental mercury levels ? Even if several molecules of glutathione were required for each mercury molecule, we should have millions of times sufficient glutathione to get the job done. Compare that to the reported upper limit of exposure through vaccines which has been estimated at less than 250 micrograms. A person so severely deficient in glutathione they would be unable to detoxify 250 micrograms of mercury probably wouldn't survive long enough to be vaccinated in the first place. Every breath of air would expose them to lethal levels of ozone, pollutants and other oxidants.
There are genetic glutathione deficiency disorders but symptoms, excluding neurological dysfunction, haven't been reported in children with autism.
"Severe glutathione synthetase (GS) deficiency is a rare genetic disorder with neonatal onset. The enzymatic block of the [gamma]-glutamyl cycle leads to a generalized glutathione deficiency. Clinically affected patients present with severe metabolic acidosis, 5-oxoprolinuria, increased rate of hemolysis and defective function of the central nervous system"
What if the glutathione redox imbalance in the small group of children studied by James was an indication of immune activation and oxidative stress? Does that point to mercury as a cause? Mercury is known to contribute to and trigger oxidative stress but very large quantities would be required in order for it to form a complex with glutathione and deplete total glutathione by excretion with mercury. Mercury can trigger immune activation which can indirectly contribute to oxidative stress but so can thousands of other substances.
In an odd coincidence, Jill James came out with another study reporting the glutathione depleting effects of mercury and it was published around the same time as the autism study. The two are often discussed as if they are one and the same.
Not surprisingly, cultured neuroblastoma cells, which are low in glutathione to start, were more sensitive to high concentrations of thimerosal. What does that have to do with autism? Hard to tell. I guess that's why the authors included this sentence:
Acute high dose exposures to Thimerosal (mmol/L) in cultured cells were used to study mechanistic aspects of Thimerosal toxicity and not intended to mimic exposures of developing brain cells in vivo to Thimerosal in vaccines (nmol/kg).
OK, so now we know that certain glutathione deficient cell lines are sensitive to high concentrations of mercury and are protected by certain glutathione precursor, which, by the way, can probably bind free mercury and reduce effective exposure levels. Again, I'm not sure why that would be relevant to autism. Other scientists have found that thimerosal can induce death in this same cell line through different mechanisms.
The hypothesis goes something like this: Certain individuals produce less glutathione[1] as a result of various gene mutations/polymorphism,[2] the resulting glutathione deficiency [3]doesn't provide enough glutathione to bind and excrete mercury the way it would in others, exposure to thimerosal in vaccines adds to their toxic burden causing certain brain cells to die[4] from a known neurotoxin.
The parts that are missing from this hypothesis are as follows.
[1] No one has demonstrated that children with autism synthesize less glutathione.
[2] No one has found gene mutations or group of polymorphisms that are strongly associated with autism let alone glutathione activity and autism.
[3] Altered glutathione redox capacity is not the same as a deficiency.
[4] No indication of the type of brains cells and why are they more sensitive to mercury than surrounding cells?
It's also important to remember the differences between free circulating extra-cellular glutathione and intra-cellular glutathione and how levels are affected by various conditions and chemicals. One popular chelation agent, alpha-Lipoic acid, can increase levels of reduced glutathione, probably through anti-oxidant mechanisms but, according to this, may "increase the effects of mercury ions on glutathione concentrations" and here we see that administration of Lipoic acid "did not increase, but rather decreased, the biliary excretion of methylmercury, cadmium, zinc, and copper" which may indicate a difference between the toxicokinetics of inorganic mercury and methyl-mercury.
That's an established fact. Different chemical compounds, different forms of mercury, behave differently and are handled differently by biological systems and different organisms. The primary way environmental mercury enters the food chain is through conversion by bacteria and other microorganisms using methylcobalamin to form methylmercury. If methylcobalamin sounds familiar it's because it is the chemical name for Methyl-B12, aka MB12, MeB12, etc. The form of B12 being used to treat autism by many DAN! Practitioners. Methylcobalamin is an essential reagent for the synthesis of the very toxic form of mercury, methylmercury, and the extremely toxic/lethal form dimethylmercury.
So the substance that is supposed to alleviate mercury induced glutathione depletion in autistic children is very effective at forming methylmercury and at least one chelation agent interferes with excretion of methylmercury through glutathione conjugation.
Proponents of MeB12 injection claim very high rates of improvement in autistic behaviors so why would a substance that effectively converts mercury to it's most toxic form help a person if they are truly mercury toxic?
To read more about the tragic death of Karen Wetterhahn after she was exposed to dimethylmercury read the article titled: The Trembling Edge of Science
For a little perspective on blood levels of mercury in cases of genuine mercury poisoning this part stands out:
WetterhahnÂs accident showed that dimethylmercury was far more toxic than anyone thought. "WeÂre all exposed to mercury just by being alive," Winn says. "A usual mercury concentration would be ten micrograms per liter of blood or less. If the level rises to 50 micrograms per liter youÂve hit the toxic threshold, the beginning of toxicity. You would begin chelation therapy. A concentration of 200 micrograms per liter is toxic, but not necessarily lethal. Karen had 4,000 micrograms per liter. ThatÂs 80 times the toxic threshold." Merely absorbing a drop or two placed her in the lethal range.
So chelation may have mobilized more mercury causing increased blood levels but unfortunately it wasn't effective enough to save Karen's life. In the case of dimethylmercury intoxication, poor methylation wouldn't seem to be a problem.
Back to the proposed genetic susceptibility. One study, involving a small group of subjects and controls, published in a dubious journal, suggested that certain gene variants, polymorphisms, or combinations of polymorphisms, may be a risk factor for autism in a small percentage of children. Note the liberal use of the words would, could, may and possibly here:
OK,It's possible, other disorders may be more or less associated with similar polymorphisms, but the association isn't always clear even after hundreds of studies. It may be possible, but it is far from being an established fact. Here they discuss glutathione S-transferase polymorphisms and potential risk of lung cancer:
Although more than 100 studies have tested the hypotheses that particular GST alleles either predispose to or protect against lung cancer, the results have been inconsistent, with some studies reporting strong associations and others failing to replicate these findings. Individual association studies are notoriously prone to error, and attempts to combine results from several studies have been complicated by the fact that allele frequencies for many of the alleles differ between populations, by differences in smoking habits, and by differences in criteria for the selection of suitable control groups.
If a hundred studies haven't established an association in a well studied disease like lung cancer, why would we view a single autism study as confirmation. Apparently Jill James agrees that the results are inconclusive and haven't been replicated.
A strange thing happened a few years ago. The mercury parents slowly moved away from the position that autism is completely environmental, most often caused by thimerosal, over to the idea that children with autism were genetically susceptible to the effects of thimerosal. Recently JB Handley, founder of Generation Rescue, went so far as to demand that other autism groups stop "wasting precious resources (money and researcher?s time) in areas that will not benefit our children today. "
Now thimerosal is said to be a trigger rather than a cause. If we don't know the genes or polymorphisms responsible for the theoretical susceptibility, we don't know the pathways and mechanisms that may exploit the susceptibility, and we can't develop a rodent model to demonstrate the susceptibility, how do we know there is one? WE DON'T
Lets' recap what we know and don't know about gluitathione and autism.
We know:
- Elevated markers of oxidative stress have been reported by several research groups.
- Decreased levels of antioxidant capacity have been reported by several research groups.
- One small study involving a small group of children may have detected an altered ratio between two oxidation states of glutathione.
- Redox capacity may have improved following the administration of several anti-oxidant and methyl donor vitamin supplements.
- High concentrations of Mercury can deplete glutathione in glutathione deficient neural cell lines in culture.
- Methylcobalamin converts inorganic mercury to the more toxic methylmercury
We don't know:
- We don't know that children with autism are less able to synthesize or recycle glutathione and glutathione precursors.
- We don't know that children with autism are more likely to possess mutations or sets of genetic variations which interfere with the capacity to manufacture glutathione or excrete mercury or other toxins.
- We don't know that mercury depletes glutathione to any significant degree at the levels achievable through vaccination with thimerosal containing vaccines.
- We don't know that methylcobalamin injections do anything to restore damaged synthetic pathways or levels of total glutathione or that it improves autistic behaviors in children.
- We don't know that oxidative stress and altered glutathione redox ratios contribute to autism in any way.
- We don't know that mercury is the only substance on the planet capable of contributing to oxidative stress that may or may not be more common to autistics.
- We don't know that any child was ever made autistic by thimerosal in vaccines
I don't pretend to understand the biology of autism, toxicology of mercury compounds, or the genetics of glutathione synthesis. What I do understand is that all of these things are stated as absolute facts by many of the mercury parents, DAN! Doctors, and autism professionals.
Let's be honest, when it comes to autism, we know less than is said.
Comments, criticisms, and corrections very much appreciated.


31 Comments:
Thank you not mercury,
This is great.
Lots of the mercury people toss around the word "glutathione" as if they understand what it is and what it does, without knowing what it is and what it does.
It would help if more people (in the US anyway) could understand some basics of chemistry, but that isn't going to happen any time soon.
Hi not mercury
Because my background is in chemistry I am (and have been) very interested in this topic. I have a list of references about glutathione and information about how it works in the body, chemical structure and reactions, etc. Please take into account that, as you say, all this biochemistry needs further study in my opinion and I am a student of this because it is not specific of my field.
Perhaps you are interested in the discussion of this information. Please tell me and I can send to you by e-mail.
Sincerely
María Luján
Arent' most of the S.J. James papers based on very high percentage of patients clinically diagnosed with "regressive" autism (which may only account something like 20-25% of the population with autism)?
I could be wrong about this.
If I'm not, is it possible that the etiology of "regressive" autism is quite different from "non-regressive", whatever that may be.
One small non-representative sample population study involving a small group of children may have detected an altered ratio between two oxidation states of glutathione. ?
Thanks for the recap NM.
If I'm not, is it possible that the etiology of "regressive" autism is quite different from "non-regressive", whatever that may be.
I'm of the opinion that regressive autism is Landau-Kleffner syndrome a lot of times. Now, IMHO Landau-Kleffner is a kind of autism. But there are probably well-known aspects of Landau-Kleffner kids might benefit from if they got the right diagnosis.
Dad of Cameron,
the small group that Jill James used for the B12, folic acid and betaine intervention (that spawned the MIND insitutes B12 investigation) were almost all regressive autistics, and possible all had been chelated and exposed to whatever cure du jour their parents were into. They weren't exactly randomly chosen autistics from the look of it.
I don't know if it's the same group that she used in other papers, I'm only really familiar with the B12 study paper which has Neubrander's name on it, by the way.
Most of the mercury parent's papers are available online for free somewhere.
Hi Maria,
Thanks for your comments and I would be very interested to hear your criticisms or input on this. If you've spotted any errors in my analysis or would like to offer suggestions or criticisms please do so. I may not have all of the facts straight so I would appreciate it if you could share your thoughts here in the comments section. Just a brief summary followed by references as required.
Hi Dad of C.
I'm not sure about that but AD's answer sounds about right. I'll look into it.
Thanks again for all the comments and suggestions.
Hi Not mercury
OK, I will give then here my opinion in general and after related to your points. BTW, I think your analysis is very clever and well done in general. My point in disagreement, as generally is, is that even when the association of glutathione with autism has not been stablished for sure, also has not been proven to be non-existent and there are some clues published about enzymatic imbalances in the detoxification system in some children with ASD and from genetics /epigenetics. I always have the sensation that we have a lot to know about ASD biochemistry so no definitive conclussions can be drawn because for me it can not be compared to non autistics biochemistry straightforward. What is certain for me is that the ideas are only so, in terms that have been not proven with enough big well controlled double blind studies, and can not be the basis for a treatment such as if ALL children with AUTISM has glutathione problems related to oxidative stress FOR SURE, in advance. I respect every parents decisions. I have problems, like you, with the presentation of these issues from certain doctors as proven facts beyond doubt. This is why for me individual testing is so important.
Please do not consider my points as criticisms. They are not included by myself with the intention to be a reply, but to be a comment to complete the idea- in my opinion, not that it is so for sure- or to discuss them further.
1-Roles of glutathione
http://ajpcell.physiology.org/cgi
/content/full/287/2/C246
2-Glutathione S- transferase -GSMT
http://www.carb.nist.gov/
gilliland_group/molecules/gst.html
http://www.ehponline.org/members/
1997/Suppl-4/seidegard-full.html
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi
/content/full/300/2/361
3-GSMT and asthma
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/
medicalnews.php?newsid=10179
4-Autism and GSMT1
a)BMC Genet. 2006 Feb 10;7(1):8
Analysis of case-parent trios at a locus with a deletion allele: association of GSTM1 with autism.
http://www.pubmedcentral.gov/
articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=16472391
b)Life Sci. 2005 Nov 16;
High levels of homocysteine and low serum paraoxonase 1 arylesterase activity in children with autism.
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Polymorphisms in xenobiotic metabolism genes and autism.
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Changes in nitric oxide levels and antioxidant enzyme activities may have a role in the pathophysiological mechanisms involved in autism.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
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Investigation of antioxidant enzymes in children with autistic disorder.
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Selenium glutathione peroxidase: some aspects in man.Michelson AM. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
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h)Neuropsychobiology. 1988;20(1):1-11. Related
Serotonin metabolism and other biochemical parameters in infantile autism. A controlled study of 22 autistic children.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
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Some Enzymes involving glutatione in the metabolism of xenobiotics : Glutathione reductase., with glutathione as cofactor, glutathione peroxidase ( that needs Se )
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=16444005&
query_hl=5&itool=pubmed_docsum
and glutathione transferases. There are no published reports about Se levels in children with autism, but several on Glutathione enzymes.
In sequence, from the reaction between a xenobiotic and glutathione , several enzymes are involved: glutathione S transferase, gama glutamyl transpeptidase,cisteynil glicinase, N acetyl transferase and finally mercapturic acid is formed. This sequence needs adequate levels of essential amino acids, pantothenic acid for Coenzyme A and phosphorus for the synthesis of ATP.
So I wonder if Besides/ beyond glutathione , that needs aminoacids , the transformation to mercapturic acid somewhat can be hindered because of problems in some of these enzymes or nutritional problems or other root?.
All the complete system of detoxification, including phase I and phase II in liver must be working to detoxify efficiently.
There are many biochemical steps that can be altered to have the findings that many researchers have in ASD. If Hg can have this impact in non autistics http://www.drkaslow.com/mercury_s_influence_of_biochemistry.htm
I wonder what is the impact in autistics or biochemically different children?
From a report of air quality in Europe
http://europa.eu.int/comm/
environment/air/pdf/pp_mercury5.pdf
Health effects of mercury
http://europa.eu.int/comm/
environment/air/pdf/pp_mercury6.pdf
In children we are going to suppose that no amalgams are present so the maximum amount of daily intake by breathing would be 0.03 to 0.3 ug of Hg per day, depending on the kind of air.
I wonder What if ASD children can not handle this?
Hi Not Mercury,
In the management of xenobiotics, factors affecting the toxicity of reactive metabolites are
1-Levels of activating enzymes
2-Levels of conjugating enzymes
3-Levels of cofactors or conjugating chemicals. Glutathione depletion potentiates covalent binding and hepatotoxicity…Reduced glutathione plays an important protective role rapping electrophilic metabolites and preventing binding to hepatic proteins and enzymes.
There is an entire chapter in the “Textbook of Modern Toxicology” from Hogson-2004- dedicated to Chemical and Physiological influence on xenobiotics metabolism.: Nutritional effects, Development (Phase II reactions are age dependent: for example glucuronidation, glycine levels are low the first 8 weeks in human, Transcripted “Glutathione conjugation may also be impared, because of defficiency of available glutathione”) In this book there is a figure of how there is a developmental pattern of glutathione S-transferase activity in female rats from 1 to 140 days life ( from near 5 nmoles/minml to 75 nmoles /minml).. The chapter (163-202) concludes:
The toxic sequelae will vary with developmental stage, nutritional status, health or physiological previous status .
You say in one of the points of what we know
• Methylcobalamin converts inorganic mercury to the more toxic methylmercury
The enzymes involved in methylation can use MethylB12 or S- adenosylmethionine (Textbook of Modern Toxicology. Dr Hodgson)
One comment , some researchers think that some line of cells (neuronal SH-SY5Yneuroblastome cells as target cells) , such as those used in Dr Deth study and others , are more related to neural cells of children with neurodevelopmental problems in terms of vulnerability to xenotibiotics, and that, If we assumed that ASD children are born different, seems plausible to me.
You say:
• We don't know that children with autism are less able to synthesize or recycle glutathione and glutathione precursors.
There are some published clues about. Please see 4b, 4e,4g, 4f and 4h from the previous post
• We don't know that children with autism are more likely to possess mutations or sets of genetic variations which interfere with the capacity to manufacture glutathione or excrete mercury or other toxins.
Well, there are some recent manuscripts published about. Please see 4a and 4c and
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=16243960&
query_hl=18&itool=pubmed_docsum
There are also the recent manuscript of Dr Woods /Dr Echeverria on certain polymorphisms and the management of Hg ( not in ASD, in dentists).
• We don't know that mercury depletes glutathione to any significant degree at the levels achievable through vaccination with thimerosal containing vaccines.
Perhaps there are lower glutathione levels/GSMT activities BEFORE the contact with mercury (as thimerosal)or other heavy metals from environment , in very tiny amounts,-because of developmental reasons- and this could be PART of the problem in some ASD children that can result HM poisoned because of this.
I think that the biochemistry of a NT, even with amalgams, can manage the amount of Hg that is released from amalgams with certain efficiency, but research is providing evidence that this depends on individual susceptibility in NT.
Even tiny amounts – such as in the case of vaccines or contaminated fish as bolus dose -can be too much for a susceptible child, such in the case of ASD, in my opinion.
However, WE NEED MORE STUDIES ABOUT ASD biochemistry
• A) Neurotoxicology. 2006 Feb 28;
Glutathione modulation influences methyl mercury induced neurotoxicity in primary cell cultures of neurons and astrocytes.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=16513172&
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B)http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=16466761&
query_hl=18&itool=pubmed_docsum
C)http://www.pubmedcentral.gov/
articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=16451871
D)http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=16337887&
query_hl=18&itool=pubmed_docsum
E)http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=16257146&
query_hl=18&itool=pubmed_docsum
F)http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=16110502&
query_hl=18&itool=pubmed_DocSum
G)http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=16083127&
query_hl=18&itool=pubmed_DocSum
• We don't know that methylcobalamin injections do anything to restore damaged synthetic pathways or levels of total glutathione or that it improves autistic behaviors in children.
There are not enough big population, controlled, double blind studies to say this, I agree. These are anecdotic evidences for science.
• We don't know that oxidative stres and altered glutathione redox ratios contribute to autism in any way.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=15950756&
query_hl=18&itool=pubmed_DocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=15892631&
query_hl=18&itool=pubmed_DocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=
Abstract&list_uids=15200431&
query_hl=18&itool=pubmed_DocSum
and Steve and I exchange ideas here about
http://www.kevinleitch.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?id=60
Even when there are some clues about oxidative stress, as Steve Z pointed out here
“How it fits in, how it is triggered, and how it should be addresed is far from understood”
but cannot be denied in advance for me.
• We don't know that mercury is the only substance on the planet capable of contributing to oxidative stress that may or may not be more common to autistics.
It is not, looking at the toxicology books
• We don't know that any child was ever made autistic by thimerosal in vaccines
Well I do not think in these terms exactly. I think that ASD children born genetically different , and correlating this with some weakness ( perhaps several unknown today) can be negatively affected by vaccines and contamination/environment in general, and this is different.
Glad to hear comments. Thank you and sorry by the long post.
MAría Luján
María, here's a question for you about the detoxification liability. I understand a person with a dental amalgam can excrete about 30 micrograms of mercury a day, correct? What about someone with a detoxification liability?
Shouldn't then dental amalgams do the following? 1) Kill about 1% of the population from acute mercury poisoning after several years. 2) Make 1% of all children with dental amalgams increasingly autistic over time.
Wow, thanks Maria,
Lots of stuff to go through and I'll have to be honest when I say I probably won't be able to go to the many web addresses you've provided. I think you are saying that you agree with me when I say that most of this is unproven and therefore still unknown, but you aren't willing to rule it out as long as it is possible.
I too don't wish to rule anything out but I think it is important to distinguish between possibilities and probabilities and that's what I attempted to accomplish with my post.
Thanks again for your comments but I'm not sure if you've pointed out any factual or conceptual errors that require revision. Let me know if there is anything you think I should correct or clarify and I will be happy to discuss it.
Hi not mercury
I hope I did not disturb you because of my lengthy post. If I comment on a well done work like yours I think I must support enough. I apologize because it was too long. I really am very interested on the science behind and also that I must give information about the whys. I do think that perhaps you are a bit too conclusive in your ideas about what we do not know or it is only a theoretical possibility.My only point is that we have some clues that need further studies on the issues you pointed out,and the evidence if not enough to ruled out conclussively a real problem with glutathione cofactor and enzymes related to glutathione.
My specific points are
a)There are some published information about genetics autism link to GMST and xenobiotics management problems. Epigenetics can not been ruled out.
b)Oxidative stress, coupled sometimes with nutritional imbalances have been also published on autism
c)There are several potential targets of the glutathione chemistry in vivo (enzymes, other coupled systems) from the environmental insult in ASD that needs further research and can not be ruled out.
d) There are some published evidence in animal models of developmental changes of glutathione enzymes related to detoxification during the first year of life that deserves more research in ASD.
e)Cells in ASD children can be more vulnerable to oxidative stress and HM insult than in NT children.
f) you say
you aren't willing to rule it out as long as it is possible.
I would complete .. and there are some published clues about its probability-based on clinical studies of small groups of ASD children- that deserves further studies.
I think it is also probable in an individual level, that we have glutathione problems in ASD, BUT has not been proven yet conclussively for a subgroup of ASD and we need better tests to detect them.
María Luján
Hi Joseph
Please take into account that I have tried to answer the very similar questions to me and there are very few published manuscripts on the topic, so my answer would be speculative, based on some developmental issues and biochemical/genetics points and in the name of intelectual honesty. Therefore I will do my best to give you an answer that is partial, because it need further research, and based on personal research and ideas in the topic.
First of all, I think that there are non autistic people with detoxification issues and there are some clues about some ASD children with some kind of detoxification liability. Impact of HM poisoning on both populations would be different.
Evidence about some polymorphisms in otherwise NT people that make them prone to be negatively affected by Hg:
1-Neurotoxicol Teratol. 2005 Nov-Dec;27(6):781-96.
Chronic low-level mercury exposure, BDNF polymorphism, and associations with cognitive and motor function.
Echeverria D, Woods JS, Heyer NJ, Rohlman DS, Farin FM, Bittner AC Jr, Li T, Garabedian C.
2-Toxicol Sci. 2004 Oct;81(2):354-63. Epub 2004 Jul 14.
Chronic low-level mercury exposure, BDNF polymorphism, and associations with self-reported symptoms and mood.
Heyer NJ, Echeverria D, Bittner AC Jr, Farin FM, Garabedian CC, Woods JS.
3-First, the amount excreted is related to the number of amalgams. “Daily excretion through feces amounted to from 30 to 190 ug of mercury, being more variable than other paths”.
There is no information about because there have been no controlled studies of Hg excretion in feces of ASD people with different number of amalgams, therefore we do not know based on controlled, published studies. Even more, the fecal level of baseline must be considered with care because there can be several sources of Hg beyond amalgams (air, fish, etc).
I think that if Hg/Al/other HM are not excreted, they are sequestered in tissues/organs, mainly bonded to S atoms. I think that, if there is a genetic predisposition to make problematic the heavy metal management-mainly those that can be in species with charge +2, all sources of HM are problematic and this could be the reason why there are anecdotic evidences of HM poisoning in ASD children without known exposure (Pb, Cd, As, Sb, etc). In the case of Hg, I think sources are air, fish consumption, vaccines with thimerosal amalgams if any.
If the imbalance is present from birth and the child is genetically different, depending of the individual genetics, it could be the level of bioaccumulation from the different sources of the different metals. Therefore there can be bioaccumulation in time for example the first years of life. Depending on the susceptibility of the child and other SNPs, there can be or not chronic conditions to develop, in combination with other environmental insults. The main insult in terms of Hg would be the Hg “bolus” doses for this susceptible child, relative to what is breatheaned, considering vaccines and occasional consumption of fish. If there are amalgams, the very low dose exposure from air would convert in a higher dose from amalgams. Also, development brings changes in body biochemistry. Even if it is altered, the interrelation between the immune system and the detoxification biochemistry makes one system changes related to the other. So how do we know how affects these developmental changes the Hg poisoning- and HM poisoning-, if exists-even if it is chronic and the metals are sequestered in tissues -, at the individual level? What if changes in excretion arise?There are changes in the immune system/biochemistry at near 6-8 years, in the puberty, and reaching adulthood. These changes can affect probably possitively or negatively the phase I/phase II of the liver and other detox systems of the body, depending on the individual health history (medications, diet, stress, etc) and individuality.
To your questions
a) Kill about 1% of the population from acute mercury poisoning after several years.
I can not assure the percentage because it depends on personal health combinations that have not been enough studied. Because of the development of chronic condictions-that can be not related to Hg poisoning ONLY therefore HM are not tested as a collaborator to the condition-, we do not know how many susceptible non autistic people can be very seriously affected after several years of contact with the known sources of Hg. There are no enough studies at the non autistic population about how many people has polymporphisms that make them prone to have problems with Hg:
Toxicol Lett. 2006 Feb 20;161(2):159-66. Epub 2005 Oct 7.
A cascade analysis of the interaction of mercury and coproporphyrinogen oxidase (CPOX) polymorphism on the heme biosynthetic pathway and porphyrin production.
Heyer NJ, Bittner AC Jr, Echeverria D, Woods JS.
Toxicol Appl Pharmacol. 2005 Aug 7;206(2):113-20.
The association between genetic polymorphisms of coproporphyrinogen oxidase and an atypical porphyrinogenic response to mercury exposure in humans.
Woods JS, Echeverria D, Heyer NJ, Simmonds PL, Wilkerson J, Farin FM.
J Alzheimers Dis. 2003 Jun;5(3):189-95.
Apolipoprotein E genotyping as a potential biomarker for mercury neurotoxicity.
And Am J Med Genet B Neuropsychiatr Genet. 2004 Feb 15;125(1):57-60
No association between the APOE gene and autism.
Godfrey ME, Wojcik DP, Krone CA.
…”The APOE protein competes with the Reelin protein for VLDL/APOER2 receptor binding. Several studies have reported evidence for an association between autism and the Reelin gene. Based on these data we tested for association between APOE and autism using family-based association methods in a data set of 322 autism families. Three promoter, one intronic, and one 3' UTR single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) in the APOE gene (-491a/t, -427c/t, -219g/t, 113c/g, and 5361c/t) as well as the APOE functional polymorphism (E2, E3, E4) were examined and failed to reveal significant evidence that autism is associated with APOE”.
b)Make 1% of all children with dental amalgams increasingly autistic over time.
I would not think so because for me, a non autistic child with amalgams will develop symptoms of Hg poisoning only if it has the polymorphisms that makes him susceptible to Hg poisoning at low dose or if he/she receives a continuous high dose from fish. If he/she has not the polymorphisms , one of them for example CPOX or others to be known, no susceptibility to Hg would arise and no problems will be evident /take place.
Autistic children, different in several genes, gene expression and epigenetics from non –autistics can have the same polymorphism, but the impact in this case would be different than non-autistics because of the combination with the different brain structure –prenatally stablished- and different biochemistry in general, since birth. This has not been studied enough (only GSMT 1 and some molecular mimicry, published in 2006) so we do not have studies about. The same with metals with +2 charge transport system and the problem of the molecular mimicry in ASD.
I tried to present you my personal idea on the issue. For me these ideas are speculative for ASD in general and need systematization and careful studies at ASD big population level. Personal experience is related to these ideas so only I can mention my personal anecdote.
What do you think?
Thank you for your interest.
María Luján
I have no scientific training so bear with me. am I right in thinking that at least one of chelation agents in the DAN! protocol, Alpha-Lipoic Acid may impede the body's own ability to use glutathione to get rid of mercury? And the methyl B12 they give to autistic children may be converting inorganic mercury that we normally get rid of via our faeces into organic compounds that require chelation?
María, I have to agree with Not Mercury that it's a lot of stuff to go through. That's not a bad thing. You certainly do your homework. But it's unlikely any of us here will address all of it.
With that said, I don't think you answered the essense of my question. Wouldn't dental amalgams be basically fatal for a good portion of the population? (They seem to contain a lot more mercury than, say, vacciones).
Hi Joseph
I tried to answering your question considering the circunstances at the best of my knowledge with the needed care. I think that depends on the individual genetics ( and epigenetics) the impact of the Hg that is released by amalgams ( that is huge in comparison with what we breathe) and also the kind of health effects that can have. Therefore I emphasized individuality.
You say
With that said, I don't think you answered the essense of my question. Wouldn't dental amalgams be basically fatal for a good portion of the population? (They seem to contain a lot more mercury than, say, vacciones).
Depending on genetics, for a portion of the population for me CAN HAVE negative effects and CAN HAVE importance as the potential trigger of disease at least partially (autoimmunity related to HM for example, CFS, etc)-If you are interested I can send to you information about. In comparison with vaccines, yes the amounts seem huge but also we must consider the age when vaccines are given vs the age when amalgams are provided because of dental problems. Generally, dentists do not do in my country any filling up to the total change of teeth in the ages 6-8 but in average age when first amalgams are used is higher (12-15).
I hope now I was clearer.
I apologize . My intention was only to give a picture of the published science that I based on to have my ideas. Because they need further studies, I feel that if I am saying something partially speculative I must demonstrate that is not totally theoretical. Also, being english my second language - and this is not an easy stuff- I try to explain enough to avoid misunderstandings.
Not mercury. Please if you feel that the information is not useful , do not hesitate to erase it.
Joseph, Sorry.
María Luján
Hi Mike,
So it would seem. MeB12 converts inorganic mercury to the more toxic methylmercury (organic) but I think this form would be less able to bind with chelation agents.
Hi Not mercury
The problem I have with this idea is that, if Hg is sequestered in tissues, is like a compound/complex, coordinated with Sulfur, not as Hg+2 inorganic, that can be methylated by MethylB12. This is why is so difficult to rid off. If there is any Hg inorganic-not complexed/reacted with Sulfur, the reaction is possible.
I think that MethylB12 is more related to the methylation cycles for methylators compounds.
María Luján
Hi Maria,
I think what you say is possible, that inorganic mercury coordinated with sulfur is sequestered in such a way that it is less likely to come in contact with MeB12 injected at high concentrations, it can't be dismissed conclusively FOR ME, but it is both possible and highly probable that any mercury compound will be methylated on contact with methylcobalamin. If it is that sequestered away how much trouble can it be causing? How about when mercury is mobilized with chelation agents only to be methylated to the more toxic form and reabsorbed?
What do you think?
Hi not mercury
I have read some published manuscripts about health effects of Hg. Two of them for me are very interesting:
1-Methylation of Mercury compounds by methylcobalamin Bertilsson and Neujahr (Biochemistry, 19, 14, 1971)
2-Rubino et al. J. Am. Soc. Mass. Spectrum 2004, 15, 288-300
I cited because for me both gave several reactions for Hg and explain . You are right, Hg, Hg+, Hg2+ and RHg+ can be all methylated and the last one can produce dimethyl Hg if R is methyl. I look at what can MethylB12 methylate ( the compounds/forms of Hg).
You say
If it is that sequestered away how much trouble can it be causing?
If Hg is sequestered implies for me reacted with S. An incredible amount of enzymes can be blocked by Hg, proteins can be denaturated by Hg, compounds can be chemically changed by Hg and so on. Therefore, Hg is not circulating in blood, but has done damage at level of organs, biochemistry and physiology, mainly kidney and brain. For example, it can react with certain proteins and as a reaction an autoimmune reaction can arise in susceptible individuals. The second paper I mentioned lists cardiovascular effects for example.
Clarkson papers have several citations about.
http://www.ehponline.org/members
/2002/suppl-1/11-23clarkson/clarkson-full.html
You say
How about when mercury is mobilized with chelation agents only to be methylated to the more toxic form and reabsorbed?
For me, and this depends on how the circulating chelator-Hg compound is managed by the detox system of the body, you change the Sulfur with originally the Hg was bonded with new Sulfur bonds for the Hg in the chelator (the chelators have Sulfur in the composition). After this, the point is how the body manage this compound Hg-Chelator for me is the point. The "normal" route of excretion is through GSH and the enzymes I cited in my previous post to excrete by urine. Some chelators follow this route and others are delivered by the fecal route. The role of gut flora is important in this point.
From the paper of Clarkson
"Demethylation of methyl mercury by microflora in the gut is a key, probably rate-determining, process in the removal of methyl mercury from the body. The microbes involved have not been identified nor have the biochemical mechanisms of cleavage of the carbon-mercury bond. The demethylation process in the gut might well constitute an important site for interaction between diet and methyl mercury accumulation in the body. The fiber content of the diet has already been shown to affect the excretion rate of mercury (117). "
I included the Clarkson paper link because I think presents several important points.
Please contact me if you are interested in more information about.
Glad to exchange ideas with you
Sincerely
María Luján
It pains me to get involved in this discussion but here goes:
Mercury sequestered in tissues is also likely bound to our endogenous protein-sulfhydryl sink: metallothionein (MT). It is a non-critical binding site for heavy metals that most likely evolved for purposes of zinc homeostasis, protecting critical protein sulfhydryls (like those on enzymes) from being oxidized and the protein denatured. In fact, a first step in the laboratory purification of MT from liver or kidney tissue is to boil the cell homogenate - this denatures and precipitates 99% of cellular proteins while MT happily remains soluble in the supernatant. It is a tough protein that has allowed us to survive in this coal-fired age, coal being the most common and abundant source of mercury exposure in humans.
MT is used to described one of two remarkable proteins (MT-1 and MT-2) whose 61 amino acids include 20 cysteine residues. MT is therefore an endogenous tissue-based chelator of many heavy metals, including mercury, having the ability to bind 6 to 8 molecules of metal ion per MT molecule. Unless you ingest grams of mercury, it will stay very tightly bound to MT until the cells are turned over whereby the MT-bound mercury gets filtered in the kidneys (yes, it is a small enough protein to be passively filtered in the glomerulus) and harmlessly excreted in the urine.
not mercury, you've done a tremendous job outlining glutathione biochemistry - I'm really impressed with how you've also debunked the B12 issues, pointing out how it can increase the formation of the more neurotoxic organic forms of mercury.
Why thank you Abel PharmBoy, and thanks for your wonderful explanation of MT proteins.
There was a lot of interest in MT and autism years ago, some claimed autistics were deficient, and Bill Walsh of the Pfeiffer clinic still talks about it at conferences. He sells an MT promoter concoction, a bunch of supplements designed to promote MT of course, but metals do that rather well don't they?
Oh but recently one of the pessimistic believers in MMR causation decided to run MT levels along with anti-MT abs and found no differences between groups.
Maybe the optimists think it's half MT.
Hi not mecury,
How do you explain the reports that rate of new cases of autism in California is dropping. This being exactly 4 years after that state banned thimerosal in vaccines.
My son is autistic and I can verify first hand that he showed regression after each vaccination. He also had 105 fevers after his shots and this was when he was pumped up on tylenol. I shudder to think what kind of body temperature and damage he would have suffered had he not had tylenol to keep it at a steady 105 (This was while he was 2 months old and a whopping 10 pounds or so). He also has food sensitivities - phenols which are consisitent with undermethylation since sulfur is needed to process these foods. He shows regression after any unnatural injestion such as cold medicines, food preservatives, etc. Remove all this and he does much better. Lack of glutathione or not, whatever the reason, my son is NOT tolerating chemicals and vaccines cause him to tumble into more severe autism. I think you are focusing too much on thimerisol. There are plenty of other unnatural ingredients in vaccines that a body will need to detoxify. 21 vaccinations by the age of 18 months - that's a lot of chemicals for children that are not up to par. My 90 year old grandmother probably never injested that many chemicals in her entire life. I never had that many vaccines, did you? Is it necessary to pump so many chemicals into children during their fragile infancy? I'm glad most children do not have a visible problem with this but reality is some do. You will continue to see more and more autism rates as this rediculous vaccination schedule continues.
My generation, the 70's, survived just fine on a select five vaccinations and it was given over a period of years not the first months of life. I don't remember ever knowing anyone with an autistic child. Now everyone knows someone that has one.
Me again, with the autistic son.
Remember, not only are these children making antibodies to live and dead virus in vaccines, they are making antibodies to food ingredients also used in vaccines. Anything unnatural injected into the blood stream will cause an antibody reaction. Vaccines are made with sorbiol, sucrose, bovine serum (cow's milk - protein, etc. Now you have an increased immune system, visible or hidden allergies, every time you eat foods containing these ingredients.
Reduced Glutathione has helped me more noticibly than anything else I've taken, and I'm 42 years old! I was very surprised because I didn't think it would help someone my age. I'm NVLD and have never been in the best of health but since age 35 have had candida, digestive problems including malnutrition because of being unable to absorb nutrients especially minerals; depression, brain fog, memory problems, severe fatigue, horrible irritability, endocrine problems. I have problems detoxing (and a genetic test picked up an error in gene for detoxification) as well. Now my digestion is better, depression is gone, my thinking is clear, severe fatigue is gone. I'd already cured the candida and worked on the endocrine problems (not completely fixed) and malnutrition (almost there) but the fatigue, depression, irritability, brain fog, memory problems remained. I was very very discouraged. Being able to live in the moment, happy, and not dragging through it depressed and irritable with the only bright spot (ha-like a flickering candle flame at best) being laying down on the couch in peace and quiet by myself at the end of the day, escaping into a book. I'm so thankful for the autism research. One strange result of taking reduced glutathione--my PMS is almost non-existant. ? What does PMS have to do with it? The only thing I could find is a study on the horizon: 'Antioxidant status and lipid peroxidation in premenstrual sydrome: a preliminary study' No abstract yet--I await eagerly.
I have been involved with Glutathione research and precursor supplementation for several years and I wanted to post an article from last November.
"Toxic metals that are not eliminated may build up in the
brain. Plasma glutathione has been found to be lower in children with autism,
particularly, in children with autism who have regressed. We want to clearly
establish that raising glutathione levels in these children will improve their
ability to detoxify these substances and in that way improve some of their
symptoms."
Dr. Jill James, Professor of Pediatrics at University of Arkansas for
Medical Sciences, will be a co-investigator. Dr. James is noted for her
landmark studies in autism and toxicology and is among the first scientists to
point out the links with low glutathione levels. "We know that Immunocal has
been used to raise glutathione in other studies very effectively in areas such
as cancer and lung disease. We want to take advantage of this same
technology", stated James.
The team will be using a protein supplement manufactured by Immunotec
Research Ltd. of Vaudreuil-Dorion, Quebec, called "Immunocal". It is
identified by the American Physicians' Desk Reference (PDR) as a glutathione
precursor. Immunotec Research Ltd. has combined rigorous research and business
acumen delivering natural healthcare and dietary supplements in 22 countries
worldwide.
Full Article.
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/November2006/22/c7459.html
Thanks for the space to share.
Randy Grover
Consultant, Immunotec Inc.
Anonymous who felt better on reduced glutathione here, again. Randy, I'm commenting on your quote "Toxic metals that are not eliminated are built up in the brain." I didn't really want to talk about metals here, just bring out how much glutathione has helped me because I was so amazed and excited about it, but since you brought it up, here goes. When my doctor was helping me restore my deficiencies with vitamins and minerals and other supplements (he said my magnesium level was so low he was surprised I was walking around) I started to have the brain fog, memory problems, etc. In addition I was having strange feelings in my head, including a static-type 'sound', and a metallic taste in my mouth. At it's worst, it was very scary--I couldn't think straight and I would forget things the next minute (any books I read, movies I watched or conversations I had during that 2 month period cannot be recalled). My doctor said that it sounded like what I was taking triggered a detox, possibly metals. I took a urine metals test and it indicated cadmium and a mixture of other metals. He gave me a chelator and reduced glutathione. That's when I first noticed how good I felt when I took the glutathione. After reading Jill James' research I started taking it again and felt great.
What I'm currently trying to find out--I've read that metals can take up space meant for minerals, in bone, tissue, etc. If the mineral supplements were displacing metals in my tissues, causing their release and the resulting detox symptoms, how much damage will the metals being released cause, especially at my age, especially if they've been in my tissues for years, sequestered by the body to keep them from damaging my tissues? Malnutrition is bad, so I needed to correct that problem, but I do have cognitive and memory problems that I'm wondering if are permanent. I had a high iq but I know it's gone down. If I'd had a lower iq to start with, where would I be? So, is it always good to get the metals out?
I wish I had the answers.
What I don't know can be answered by a specialist that does.
Call 1 888 719 9997 and ask your question to the assistant.
One important thing to consider about Glutathione is this you cannot eat it. There are a lot of supplements on the market stating Glutathione. By eating these supplements they will not survive the digestive tract. Lots of clinical trial data showing this. The cells have to be given the precursors to raise glutathione levels.
It is all fine and good to say that the DAN doctors are speculating about low glutathione levels and high mercury causing autism, BUT what I see when I look on their websites is before and after videos, showing unresponsive autistic children interacting with their families like never before after receiving treatings to boost their glutathione levels and detox the metals in their systems. It seems like logic to me that they are right, and you are wrong, my friend.
If you want to avoid ingesting mercury, live on a non-volcanic, weather-free planet, and don’t eat fish – particularly big, long-lived ones such as tuna and shark. Mercury locked in the Earth’s crust finds its way into our environment by being belched out of volcanoes, and weathered out of the rocks. A small amount also still results from industrial activities, and from burning coal. (One custodial sentence available to Roman law courts used to be a period in the cinnabar mines; it wasn’t exactly a death sentence…..Nowadays, however, we’re even fitting mercury traps to the chimneys of crematoria.)
Whatever its form initially, most environmental mercury eventually ends up reacting with chemicals produced by soil and marine bacteria - thereby forming (mainly) - methylmercury:
“The primary way environmental mercury enters the food chain is through conversion by bacteria and other microorganisms using methylcobalamin to form methylmercury”.
That sentence manages to imply an element of “intent” on the part of the bacteria! However, what they are actually making is methylcobalamin (m-B12) – one of the two ingestible forms of Vitamin B12. Environmental mercury reacts with this – wrecking the m-B12 molecule, and producing – inter alia – methylmercury. You could do the same thing yourself (in time) simply by adding mercury, or one of its inorganic salts, to some m-B12 solution made up from an m-B12 sublingual. The bacteria do not “want” to make methylmercury; it’s chemistry that does it.
Inevitably, the methylmercury so formed washes into the oceanic food chain, at the top of which is…..us. (Well – you; I’m a vegetarian!) It has been suggested (jokingly!!) that – in the US – most nursing mothers would be committing a Federal offence by crossing a state boundary, because of the illegally high mercury content of their milk. (It’s relatively easy to keep cows’ milk low in mercury, because cattle don’t naturally eat oceanic fish. On the other hand, fish products are permissible in cattle feed supplements. Yet again, we unerringly put the bullet through our collective foot!)
Evolution equips us to survive; as a toxin, mercury is a naturally-occurring hazard of our environment, so we have evolved strategies to deal with it. Our bodies naturally “mobilise” mercury (quite often as methylmercury), in order to fix it as a “metallothionen”, which the kidneys trap and steadily excrete.
Thus, in attacking methylcobalamin therapy, the article descends into bad science, ignorance, scaremongering, and just plain nonsense:
“Methylcobalamin is an essential reagent for the synthesis of the very toxic form of mercury, methylmercury, and the extremely toxic/lethal form dimethylmercury.
So the substance that is supposed to alleviate mercury induced glutathione depletion in autistic children is very effective at forming methylmercury and at least one chelation agent interferes with excretion of methylmercury through glutathione conjugation.
Proponents of MeB12 injection claim very high rates of improvement in autistic behaviors so why would a substance that effectively converts mercury to its most toxic form help a person if they are truly mercury toxic?
To read more about the tragic death of Karen Wetterhahn after she was exposed to dimethylmercury read the article titled: The Trembling Edge of Science “
Thus, if you have mercury locked in your anatomy, taking lots of m-B12 will “mobilise” some of it by forming methylmercury, which will eventually be fixed as a trappable/excretable form, and dumped – rather as Nature seems to have “intended”. If you don’t keep topping up your mercury through ingestion, is that a good thing, or a bad one? To paraphrase Oliver North – “I thought that was a neat idea; as a matter of fact, I still do.”
“and at least one chelation agent interferes with excretion of methylmercury through glutathione conjugation.”
Which agent is that? This phrase hangs in the paragraph with no visible means of support, and I cannot see its relevance to the rest of the discussion anyway.
“Methylcobalamin is an essential reagent for the synthesis of…….. the extremely toxic/lethal form dimethylmercury”
Now that is just plain nonsense. Dimethylmercury is not biologically synthesised; it requires an industrial process to make it. There’s an interesting discussion here: http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=7231 about the sanity and motives of someone who - by punting various “I imagine that these might be feasible” kitchen-sink chemical reactions – is fishing for a lead on how to produce the stuff. By the way, the forum - http://www.iwantnervegasnowforum.com/ is a joke on the part of the correspondent who posted it.
Professor Wetterhahn (who was born on the same day as I) worked rigidly within the safety precautions laid down for handling dimethylmercury. That these had been inadequately investigated and expressed was no fault of hers. She trusted the information she had, and died of poor safety research, as much as of dimethylmercury poisoning. We use, and handle, a lot of lethal things in everyday life – electricity, for a start – but we do so with a full understanding of how to stay safe. In toxicology, dimethylmercury is an extremely handy substance for use as a “standard” (“100” on the scale, as it were). Karen Wetterhahn’s death was tragic – to say the very least; however, better handling precautions, and a better understanding of dimethylmercury’s toxicity and action have arisen out of it – as well as a move to find an equally toxic, but more “docile”, standard substance.
Karen Wetterhahn was a meticulous worker and a respected academic; she died - through no fault of her own - from accidental transdermal ingestion of a lethal substance living organisms do not produce. Using this tragedy – as the author does – to try to grind some axe about methylcobalamin therapy is an outrageous insult to Professor Wetterhahn’s memory. It also betrays an appalling ignorance of biochemistry.
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